Flames
As all yaoi-ers, I occasionally get flames. Unlike many yaoi-ers, I also make enemies (who have about the same mentality as your average flamer.) Here for your enjoyment is my own little wall of flames. The flamers' are in this color.
A Flame to Gundamonopoly.
Injustice is right! By the way, before I start breathing fire,
let me say that this fic would have been funny were it not for a certain element you added for a reason that I do not see at all. I do not appreciate yaoi fics. At all. I am not saying that I dislike gays or lesbians. In fact, I have no problem with them. It isn't exactly like they choose to love someone of their sex. But really, we're talking the Gundam pilots here! Get real! Here are my supportive facts: 1. Duo has a girlfriend. They aren't exactly gonna break up. 2.Heeero said that Duo was just an obstical to compleeting missions. That sure sounds like love don't it. 3. There is no evidence that there is anything between Quatre and Trowa! 4. Just because a guy wears pink shirts does not mean he is gay. Please! I mean would you cal a girl gay for wearing a blue shirt? No! However, that is the color associated with boys. See how pathetic it is to judge someone on looks? I sure hope you do! Here is some evidence that would be counted as purly opinion, but I will use anyway: 1. Heero is in love with Relena. Haven't you seen the way he can't kill her? The way he won't kill Zechs because cuz "Relena would be sad"? The way he thinks of her before he is about to die? Not to mention the fact that in the Endless Waltz manga they become a couple? There are many more reasons to support this view, but I'll give you a slight break and not list them. I would like to take this moment to point out the fact that the Gundam Pilots are, in my opinion, are just friends and don't deserve this gross pairing. I can take a little character bashing, but this is just way too much. I mean Hellooooo, what were you thinking. Get a clue. I'm sorry I got so mad but this is a matter I feel very strongly about, especially with the Gundam Pilots. Well I think I've used up enough lines of fire on you. Here's *name removed* with a possibility of glader tidings: Geez, that was very...vehement. (Look it up.) Never mind that probably half the reasons that HY and RP are a couple came from yours truly... Anyway, I do think you should have put a warning in the summary that it was yaoi and indecent. Gundamonopoly
And maybe you should look up yaoi. This story wasn't yaoi, it was shonen-ai. And when is homosexuality "indecent?"
And at the beginning, the thing about Relena...does it LOOK like any of them hate her? Okay, maybe Wufei who seems to hate women in general, with the possible exception of Sally. (Ew, I don't like the thought of them as a couple that much but I accept it...) Anyway, it was funny (too many anyways there) except for said yaoi and indecencies. (Close minded much, *name removed*?) (She's gonna resent that...) Well, I guess that's pretty much it, I don't have as much to say about the matter as *name removed* over there. And I don't have anything against yaoi, except certain couples. Once again, we don't hate homosexuals as long as we don't know them or value them as people.
Basically anyone from gundam wing would qualify, but I have NOTHING against Nuriko from FY. Heck, I LIKE Nuriku. She-excuse me, HE, is funny! *initials removed*: Now that I've cooled off, I would like to say that your fic was funny. Please try again (without the yaoi parts would be nice, butas *name removed* said, I can't tell you what to do.) I look forward to reading new fics by you (after checking to see if it is yaoi). I would also like to contribute the fact that I like Nuriko too, but i just have a problem with Gundam pilot pairings. Thanks for reading this review. Flames to Night In A Warehouse
i was playing truth or dare with my friends online and i picked dare.so i had to read this sick nasty story!u sick bastard! - MIKE SNAKE ()
EWWWWWW!!!!!! YOU WRECKED THE HOLE FIC BY MAKING IT YAOI/GAY! *shudders* This, is the fanfiction I'm simply disgusted by. *waves finger around* The G-boys are not faggots. Be ashamed, very very ashamed. - Nicky
A Flame at Mediaminer.org
Title: Gay and stupid
And my note right after his/hers:
Title: Flame Rebuttal
Oh, thank you for showing me the light! I'll never write yaoi again just because of what you wrote. Puh-lease. In fact, you just gave me motivation to write more yaoi fics! Fool! Hahaha. ;) KC
Nuff said.
Flame to Yousha: A Snowy Interlude
From: Sk8er Girl (http://www.fanfiction.net/profile.php?userid=484728)
All peope who write gay/lezzo stories abot good shows are STUPID! And hey, she just sent a little note again, (after changing her webhandle, her user id's the same)!
From: Gogeta Jr (http://www.fanfiction.net/profile.php?userid=484728)
Listen im sorry about the last review.
I really should have read it. I just dont really like Vegeta being
paired up with anyone but bulma or ME! heheheh im sorry.
GogetaJr
Flame to My Dreambook over VALL
Name: anonymous
*rolls eyes* How original.
Your view on VALL is VERY skewed and VERY demeaning.
You seem to flatter yourself by using big words and complicated psychological reasons why VALL is so very woman-hating and why everyone else should hate us for it. As I did not read your first anti-VALL post, but only the second one, with the correspondance from Burned-out Vamp, I do not know if you put this in that first essay or not, but did you even MENTION you acted as a completely two-faced little sneak by conducting an "experiment" by actually JOINING VALL, gaining their trust, and then writing this horribly demeaning essays? Unfortunately, I'm very sleep-deprived at the moment, so I fear this post isn't up to scratch. Hopefully, though, I've made my point. That's all I have to say. Flame over VALL
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 08:38:16 -0700 (PDT)
And again, we have a vall member trying to discredit my claim that vall members flame dissenters by flaming me. It's funny when a member agrees with me without realizing it.
Flame to BDSM: Soft Ropes
Anonymous Sadist 22 January 2005 - 07:34AM 1: A bdsm explanation Anonymous
Is it like an unstated rule that all flamers must be anonymous? I know, I know, a rare few will actually attach their names/pseudonyms, but they seem to love the ability to hide their identities. Perhaps because they know that flaming is cowardly and wrong.
Thank you for contributing to the wealth of misinformation about BDSM generally spread by purely D/S people who have no idea about S&M at all!
The irony, of course, being that people in D/s are the ones that overlap into S/M. Lack of information? Puh-leeze, bitch.
Also, thank you ever so much for the faux-tolerance! "Oh, BDSM is great as long as you're not doing anything /I/ think is sick!" YOU, ma'am, make me sick.
Either this moron didn't read the whole essay (which I'm finding more and more uniform amongst flamers) or they're extremely stupid and didn't catch the whole "bondage isn't about hurting the victims, scarring them physically or mentally, rape or torture" or "sensation need not be pain." So this flamer is into "hurting" their slave, "scarring them mentally and physically," "raping" and "torturing"? If the sub wants some blood drawn from a hard whipping or some real pain in their play, then as long as it doesn't endanger their health, then it's still bdsm.
BDSM is all about being safe, sane and consensual. Torture is not. Cutting nipples off with a pair of garden shears is not sane. Rape is not sane. This has nothing to do with what *I* think, especially considering that I like rape and death porn. This has everything to do with legalities, permanent injury and one seriously deluded little sadist who I hope never has a slave tied up before them. Oh wait, s/he likes rape. I'm sure any victim will be tolerant of being raped because it's the sadist's wet dream. Speaking of making someone sick...
Let the record show that this person does indeed state that they will "breathe fire" (flame).
And I should make sure that everything I write into all of my stories fits everyone's ideas of what is acceptable and for reasons everyone can understand? Even the Pope can't do that!
Appreciate--To be grateful for; to regard highly; to esteem or value properly; to set a just price, value or estimate on; (from The New Webster's Dictionary of the English Language, Deluxe Encyclopedia edition)
Of course, if it was a choice, it would be a mortal sin and then we "should" have problems with them, right? But they're just biologically screwed up then, so it's not their fault. In fact, I'm sure there are ways to fix them so they don't have that problem anymore and fit into normal society.
Intelligent, good looking young men who are violent and confident, and generally likeable. Obviously these qualities aren't found in homosexual people.
There are yaoi fans out there that could definitely do this better than I can, but I'll try anyway.
Hilde? (Or Hirde, however you like it). No, not a girlfriend, unless you mean she is a girl and a friend. Yes, Duo stayed over at her place for awhile in the series, but then he stayed over at Howard's for awhile. Is Howard his boyfriend? Eww, squick. This "fact" is pure opinion and thus cannot prove anything.
He also saved Duo when he was captured, instead of killing him, took him to a hospital, and actually converses with him, which is more than he does with Relena. In fact, he's told Relena several times he's going to kill her. That sure sounds like love don't it.
Yeah, they're just really friendly at the end 'cause they're such good friends. Trowa seeks out Quatre as they fight on the Libra, then watches over him at the hospital. Quatre tears up when he sees Trowa just because he's happy that he didn't kill him. They perform duets with anyone who can play, I'm sure. (add extra sarcasm here)
Why the sudden association of pink with "gay"? I didn't infer that, and I don't know a lot of people who think that pink on a boy = gay. Actually, in a world of polarized social gender roles, I'm not surprised that some people who either a) don't know any homosexual people or think that they don't, or b) believe in the strict gender stereotypes set out by society, would automatically think to "defend" someone's sexuality if that person doesn't conform to those stereotypes. True, colors mean nothing about sexuality, at least where humans are usually concerned. To be honest, I haven't found one yaoi writer yet who makes mention of Quatre wearing pink because he's homosexual. Why is it it's usually staunch straight people who yell that out first?
Of course. Why let logic get in the way?
You mean the way he can't destroy the one person who can unite the earth and colonies and bring them closer to peace, away from the violence and bloodshed they're under? Gee, and I thought it's because he's halfway intelligent and can grasp the concept of actions having consequences. Plus, Doctor J said he was still a kind boy, beneath that hardened exterior. Kind does not equal love, sorry.
Oh, thank you for the favor!
Ah, so homosexuality is gross. I think we've found the root of this flamer's problem with my specs. Good, brave, intelligent people don't deserve the fate of yaoi-ness. That's for biologically screwed up people.
Implications of homosexuality is "character bashing?"
Once again, let the record show that this is a blatant flamer.
Yes, people we like are never homosexual. Those are only people we hate. And it's okay if you do something while you're mad without considering other people's feelings, I'm sure. (add extra sarcasm here).
Exhibit C that this person is flaming.
Okay, this is a transition to a new person. Will things get better?
Yes, it was. If that's implying I don't know what the word is, I do. Contrary to popular belief, homosexuals and those who support them are not stupid.
We'll let that slide 'cause I don't know which ones they are and besides, I can't slam when I don't have specific wording.
First, I didn't realize people could get so offended by it, or would just click the backspace button as I do when I see it's a H/R or D/H fic. Also, there is a warning right there after the title on the story page itself, see?
Warnings: humor, shonen ai
No, Heero just keeps pointing guns at her and running away from her because he likes her. (please note the sarcasm dripping in my voice)
He has certain ideas about what women are capable of, but that doesn't mean he's misogynistic. He just has set preconceptions that are open to alteration. After all, he listens to Sally's points of views and weighs them fairly in his mind. Plus, his dead wife Meiran called herself Nataku, and he calls his gundam Nataku and often wonders if he is strong enough to pilot it. Hence, the "female" gundam is stronger than he is. In fact, he believes that women are extremely compassionate. Is that really hateful?
Awww, we're so glad you approve...(more sarcasm)
Resent? Me? No, just laugh.
See, being "gay" (or at least a cross-dresser) is okay as long as you don't mind being laughed at. Serious people can never be gay, that would be wrong and "indecent."
"Try?" "Try?" So sorry I failed you, master! Obviously I'm out to please only you!
Praise God and Pass the Blue Ribbon.
Keep your eyes out for the warning signs in the story itself, and BTW, THEY'RE ALL SHONEN-AI AND YAOI!>
So of course everyone must know this and appreciate (to esteem and value properly) it. Hear this, everyone! It's okay to be gay, as long as your funny.
Review? So that's what we're calling it.
So...reading this was a punishment for you. I'm kinda glad. And just because you had to read it doesn't mean you have to trash it. Did it scare you? Did I freak out the big bad snake?
1. Learn to spell. It's "whole," not "hole." 2. Don't place commas after the first word of a sentence except under rare circumstances, under which this does not fall. 3. An ellipses would have been more appropriate. 4. Don't wave your finger around, I don't know where it's been. 5. How do you know they aren't gay? How do you know your friends aren't gay? With your attitude, they'd be "very very ashamed" to speak up. 6. Your derogatory remarks are what's truly disgusting. It's painful to whoever hears/reads them, be they homosexual or heterosexual. 7. Since you can't spell, I'll assume you can't read that well. Or did you miss the little notes about this story being yaoi/shonen-ai at the beginning? 8. This is "the" fanfiction you're disgusted by? So the other yaoi fics don't mess you up? Silly flamer.
Reviewed By: Silver On: June 12, 2002 19:32 EDT
Rating(s):
Style of Writing: 1 of 10
Spelling & Grammar: 1 of 10
Originality/Creativity: 1 of 10
Enjoyment Factor: 1 of 10
Overall Rating: 1 of 10
Comment/Review:
This Fanfic is really sick, gay and stupid. Its disgusting it dosent even deserve to be read. Dont even bother writing a sequel.
Reviewed By: KC On: June 12, 2002 20:45 EDT
Comment/Review:
To this Silver coward too afraid of a "sick" person to give an email:
Y'know, I don't think she read the story. There wasn't any lesbianism in it. Oh hey, I just noticed she misspelled people! *am not the most observant kitty in the world*
Because we all know it's okay to use slurs if all you have to back them up is your own hate. And this person is a Mary Sue-er? Boy, winner all around, huh?
Notice she doesn't even bother to back up her statement. I show in my essay that VALL is a group that loves to flame anyone who argues with them and she...uh...flames me to say I'm wrong.
Big words? Now I'm at fault for big words? And complicated psychological reasons. Ah, I see. To reason with VALL, one must use small words and easy to understand ideas. Hey, I didn't say it, she did! Is she flaming me or VALL?
Oh, these little girls at VALL...flaming without knowing what they're flaming. The main arguments are in the *first* essay, the backup and case example in the *second*. Maybe they should only be censoring what their members read, since this baby obviously can't be trusted to read with a clear mind.
That one's in the third essay, where I gleefully chronicle my two-faced sneaky ways. Am I supposed to feel shame for my experiment and my essays that only prove what a sick little group VALL is? Wait a second, I get it now. If I call them what they are, I'm being a horrible meanie, nevermind if I'm right. If I wasn't, why not try their hand at their own essay about how wrong the KCbitch is? Oh, but that would mean self-examination, and they don't exactly excel at this.
As I've read much of the fiction put out by VALL members, I don't think sleep would help any.
Oh, a point may have been proven, but I don't think the point was her's. ^_^
All my essays, all my work, and that's it? So much for a decent rebuttal, all we get here is a flame.
From: "The Rev." revvampyre@sbcglobal.net
Subject: ...
Despite your use of big words to mask a lower than average intellect and how sad it is that you still give a fuck about a loose group of authors like VALL, you still make me laugh, mostly when you're serious. The Rev.
*sparkles* Ooh, I guess we now know who the ball-less anonymous post was from now! I I love this, using big words means you're stupid. And still giving a fuck? I think he means that it's normal to have believe something but then lose interest and walk away. Maybe that's how it is for him and vall (probably true considering how more than half the members just walked away from that recently) but some people do indeed have convictions.